A131519
koh
zbi74583 at boat.zero.ad.jp
Mon Dec 3 02:29:29 CET 2007
----- Original Message -----
From: "Max Alekseyev" <maxale at gmail.com>
To: "koh" <zbi74583 at boat.zero.ad.jp>
Cc: <seqfan at ext.jussieu.fr>
Sent: Monday, November 26, 2007 7:07 PM
Subject: Re: A131519
> On Nov 19, 2007 8:41 PM, koh <zbi74583 at boat.zero.ad.jp> wrote:
>
>> My early result a(3)=66 and yours 46 seem to be incorrect.
>
> I've already rejected the value 46 as incorrect in my previous email
> on this topic.
> Below I will argue that you overcounted a(3) by 4 and the correct
> value is a(3)=58.
>
I agree with you.
>> I list all parrtitions.
>> I classified them with length of the paths.
>>
>> G_3
>>
>> [Names of nodes and edges]
>>
>> x y z t_1=xy , t_2=yz
>> o===o===o b_1=xy , b_2=yz
>>
>>
>> [Example of figure]
>>
>> path b_1,t_2 is represented as follows
>>
>> x y-->z
>> .-->. .
>>
>> cycle path t_1,-b_2
>>
>> x-->. .
>> .<--. .
>>
>>
>> o {4} {n} means directed path of length n
>> x-->.-->.
>> .<--.<--.
>> {t or b}*{t or b}*{x or z} last term is for starting point
>> =2^3=8
>>
>> .-->y-->.
>> .<--.<--.
>> {r or l}*{t or b}*{t or b} r or l means number of symmetry
>> =2^3=8
>>
>> o {3} + {1}
>> x-->.-->. x . .
>> . .<--. + .-->. .
>> the same as {4}
>> =8+8
>
> I agree with the above results.
>
>> o {2} + {2}
>> x-->. . . y-->.
>> .<--. . + . .<--.
>> {t or b}*{t or b}*{x or z}
>> =2^3=8
>>
>> x-->. . . .<--z
>> .<--. . + . .-->.
>> {t or b}*{t or b}
>> =2^2=4
>>
>> x-->.-->. . . .
>> . . . + .-->.-->.
>> {t or b}*{t or b}*{x or z}
>> =2^3=8
>
> In the last subcase you have only 4 not 8 variants.
> For example, the choices of ttx and bbx coincide (as they correspond
> to a pair of parallel paths directed from x to z: one consists of
> "top" edges, the other consists of "bottom" edges).
>
You are right.
>>
>> o {2} + {1} + {1}
>> x-->. . . y-->. . . .
>> .<--. . + . . . + . .-->.
>> {t or b}*{y or z}*{r or l}
>> =2^3=8
>
> Previously in this case I counted 16 variants but now I do not see
> how. It seems to me that your value 8 is correct.
>
>> o {1} + {1} + {1} + {1}
>> .-->. . . .<--. . . . . . .
>> . . . + . . . + .-->. . + . .<--.
>> =2
>>
>> So,
>> a(3) = 8 + 8 + 8 + 8 + 8 + 4 + 8 + 8 + 2
>> = 62
>
> It should be
> a(3) = 8 + 8 + 8 + 8 + 8 + 4 + 4 + 8 + 2 = 58
>
>> Could you explane how to get your formula?
>
> Below I will present an updated formula with ideas of the proof:
>
> Suppose that we have vertices 1,2,3,...,n and edges a=12, b=12, x=23, y=23, ...
>>From every partition into strokes of G_n let us remove edges a,b,
> maybe splitting some strokes into two. Then if there appear two paths:
> one starting with the edge x and other ending with the edge y (or vice
> versa), we will merge them into a single path. As a result we will
> have some partition into strokes of G_{n-1}. Therefore, we can
> consider different directions of edges x,y and different ways to
> combine them with partitions into strokes of G_{n-1}, to obtain
> partitions of G_n.
>
> Let u(n) be the number of partitions of G_n, containing a subpath 212
> (i.e, in terms of edges: either ab or ba) not starting and ending at
> the same vertex; v(n) be the number of partitions with the edges a,b
> co-directed; w(n) be the number of partitions with a path starting and
> ending at vertex 1; and z(n) be the number of partitions containing a
> subpath 212, starting and ending at the same vertex.
> Then we have A131519(n) = u(n) + v(n) + w(n) + z(n) with u(2)=0,
> v(2)=2, w(2)=2, z(2)=2 and
>
> u(n+1) = 2*u(n) + 4*v(n)
> v(n+1) = 6*u(n) + 3*v(n) + 4*w(n) + 2*z(n)
> w(n+1) = 2*u(n) + 2*v(n) + 4*w(n) + 2*z(n)
> z(n+1) = 2*u(n) + 4*w(n) + 4*z(n)
>
> that implies the formula
> A131519(n) = 13*A131519(n-1) - 22*A131519(n-2) - 88*A131519(n-3) +
> 112*A131519(n-4) for n>=6.
>
> The sequence then becomes
> 1, 6, 58, 578, 5766, 57810, 580310, 5829538, 58575686
>
4 terms are needed then how did you get fourth term?
I will send to Neil an edited A131519.
Yasutoshi
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