Seriously disagreement
Artur
grafix at csl.pl
Wed Sep 3 10:20:03 CEST 2008
P.S.
If we will be count divisors of x (not 2x^2-1)
we will receiving 11, 171, 2126, 24300, 266400
Mathematica codes:
l = 0; p = 2; a = {}; Do[k = p x^2 - 1; m = Divisors[x];
Do[If[PrimeQ[m[[y]]], l = l + 1], {y, 1, Length[m]}];
If[N[Log[x]/Log[10]] == Round[N[Log[x]/Log[10]]], Print[l];
AppendTo[a, l]], {x, 1, 100000}]; a
which is A064182
if we will count only prime divisors of x when 2x^2-1 is prime we will
receiving
9, 75, 647, 5397, 46555
Mathematcia codes
l = 0; p = 2; a = {}; Do[k = p x^2 - 1;
If[PrimeQ[k], m = Divisors[x];
Do[If[PrimeQ[m[[y]]], l = l + 1], {y, 1, Length[m]}]];
If[N[Log[x]/Log[10]] == Round[N[Log[x]/Log[10]]], Print[l];
AppendTo[a, l]], {x, 1, 100000}]; a
this last is new for ONEIS
Anyone sequence isn't these from www page
Best wishes
Artur
Artur pisze:
> Dear Seqfans,
> I was write mathematica procedure follow Franklin sugestion that
> numbers aren't number of primes but number of prime divisors for
> numbers of the form 2x^2-1 and x<=10^n.
> My result is fllowing
> *10, 154, 1904, 21741, 238392*
> Mathematica codes:
> l = 0; p = 2; a = {}; Do[k = p x^2 - 1; m = Divisors[k];
> Do[If[PrimeQ[m[[y]]], l = l + 1], {y, 1,
> Length[m]}];If[N[Log[x]/Log[10]] == Round[N[Log[x]/Log[10]]],
> Print[l]; AppendTo[a, l]], {x, 1, 100000}]; a
>
> Mayby on mentioned www is nothing wrong (as Franklin belive) but what
> author was mean are difficult puzzle to deknotting.
>
> Best wishes
> ARTUR
>
>
>
>
>
> franktaw at netscape.net pisze:
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Peter Pein <petsie at dordos.net>
>>
>>> The page starts (after a tble of contents) wit a table of x (propably
>> upper
>>> bound of x) in the left column and the right column has got the title
>> "Primes".
>>
>> Yes, but the title of the page is "Sieving for Primes ...", not
>> "Counting
>> Primes ...". In fact, the column is a count of primes - as I stated,
>> the number
>> of primes dividing 2x^2-1 for any x <= 10^n. And 1 is not being
>> counted as
>> a prime here.
>>
>>> Near the bottom (numbered "4.") the first entry says that 1 is prime.
>>
>> This is just sloppiness. The program is outputting 1 when no new
>> primes are
>> found, and the author has simply copied this to the web page.
>>
>>> These are unmisunterstandable (is there such an word in english
>> language?)
>>> statements which are wrong. There is enough space to write "prime
>> divisors" if
>>> one wants. But the author wrote "Primes". Therefore it is nonsense.
>>
>>> Sorry for my ignorance but I do not want to have to _guess_ or
>> _search_for_
>>> the meaning of words when reading websites concerning mathematics.
>>
>> It nowhere states that the numbers are the numbers of primes for x <=
>> 10^n.
>> It implies that these are numbers of primes in some way associated with
>> 2x^2-1 for x <= 10^n. It would be (much) better if there was some
>> explanation for exactly what is being counted; but what is there is
>> not wrong.
>>
>> Showing "1" in section 4 instead of blank, or perhaps the word
>> "none", is
>> wrong -- but doesn't mean that the author thinks 1 is prime.
>>
>> I agree that the page is far from ideal, but to simply dismiss it as
>> "nonsense" is
>> short-sighted. There is something of value here. The effort
>> required to figure
>> it out is much less than what is required to understand a typical
>> mathematical
>> paper. And I see much worse in this mailing list on a regular basis.
>>
>> (And no, there is no such word as "unmisunderstandable". Say "not
>> misunderstandable" instead.)
>>
>>> Peter
>>
>> franktaw at netscape.net schrieb:
>>> A closer look at this web page shows that this is counting the number
>> of
>>> distinct prime divisors of numbers of the form 2x^2-1 for x <= 10^n,
>> not
>>> the number of primes.
>>>
>>> Note that there can be at most one prime divisor of 2x^2-1 that does
>>> not divide 2y^2-1 for some y < x. Every prime divisor p except
>> possibly
>>> one must be < 2x (in fact, p < sqrt(2) x), at which point p divides
>>> 2 |x-p|^2 - 1.
>>>
>>> Franklin T. Adams-Watters
>>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: Artur <grafix at csl.pl>
>>>
>>> Dear Seqfans,
>>>
>>> On www page
>>> http://www.devalco.de/quadr_Sieb_2x%5E2-1.htm
>>> we can read that number of primes of the form 2x^2-1 for x equal or
>> less
>>> than 10^n is
>>>
>>> 8, 84, 815, 7922, 77250, 759077, 7492588, 74198995, 736401956,
>>> 7319543971, 72834161467
>>>
>>> ...
>>>
>>
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