# [seqfan] Re: futurevalue

franktaw at netscape.net franktaw at netscape.net
Mon Aug 17 07:14:04 CEST 2009

```Actually, I will modify my earlier statement: the program in A066274 is
worth retaining.  There may be a few others.

I do think that any call futurevalue(x,c,z) with c a constant ought to
be replaced by x*(c+1)^y, and the vast majority of these programs are
of this form.  Many of them will then be trivial, and often duplicate
existing programs.

And really, EVERY program from Zerinvary needs to be reviewed, and
many, probably most, should be deleted.  Consider the following from

seq(mul(n, k=1..n), n=0..17);

a:=n->mul(sum(n*(-1)^j, j=0..20), k=1..n): seq(a(n), n=0..17);

a:=n->mul(denom (1/(n+1)), k=0..n): seq(a(n), n=-1..16);

restart:a:=n->mul(sum(1, j=0..n), k=0..n): seq(a(n), n=-1..16);

First, we've got this repeated use of mul(x, k=1..n) instead of x^n;
this is pure obfuscation.  Likewise, "sum(n*(-1)^j, j=0..20" is an
obfuscated way of writing "n".  Also "denom (1/(n+1))" is just "n+1",
and "sum(1, j=0..n)" is a terrible way to write "n+1".  All of these
are just obfuscated ways of writing n^n or (n+1)^(n+1).

On the Mathematica side, we've got:

Table[Hyperfactorial[n]/Hyperfactorial[n - 1], {n, 0, 17}]

which is marginal; this would make a better formula than a program, as
one would never use this method to compute the sequence.

Finally, there's:

(Other) sage: [log(e^(n^n))for n in xrange(0, 10)]

and I think that this silliness speaks for itself.

-----Original Message-----
From: N. J. A. Sloane <njas at research.att.com>

I do NOT agree that all the "futurevalue" Maple commands
should be deleted.

Neil

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