[seqfan] Re: 3-sequences relations using Robert Gerbicz's seeker.c
Alexander P-sky
apovolot at gmail.com
Tue Aug 24 16:17:01 CEST 2010
Dear Georgi
- you are doing a great work !
Don't get discouraged by anybody's comments ...
ARP
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On 8/24/10, Georgi Guninski <guninski at guninski.com> wrote:
> On Mon, Aug 23, 2010 at 10:01:29PM -0400, Charles Greathouse wrote:
>> That does sound interesting. But I think it's infeasible for other
>> reasons: the human time needed to sift through the resulting
>> sequences.
>>
>> If (extrapolating) there are a million 3-sequence relationships
>> between 200,000 sequences, then we'd expect to the order of a hundred
>> million 4-sequence relationships between 200,000 sequences.
>>
>> In fact, even just the 3-sequence relations seem hard to analyze. If
>> there are 500 active SeqFans members (surely an overestimate) then
>> each would need to check 2000 sequence relations. Perhaps half would
>> be trivial and anther quarter could be dismissed without much work,
>> but that's still 500 difficult relations per person. 50 I could
>> imagine; 500 would be too many to ask. 50,000 seems entirely more
>> than a person could reasonably check.
>>
>> Charles Greathouse
>> Analyst/Programmer
>> Case Western Reserve University
>>
>
> Charles, i agree with you.
>
> the post was just a computational experiment, i don't claim it makes any
> sense or is interesting/worth.
>
> some marginal benefits of the test may be:
>
> 1. the experiment was just a toy experiment based on too little number of
> terms. if instead of 30 terms 100 terms were used the # of relations would
> be considerably smaller imo. try searching for the integers 1 .. 30 and 1 ..
> 45 in oeis. (126 vs 67). btw, the choice of just 30 terms may be a big
> mistake of mine.
>
> to play devil's advocate, the oeis may genuinely contain an enormous number
> of inter-relations that is infeasible for the humans on seqfan, so what ;)
>
> 2. i suppose most people are not interested in *all* sequences, they are
> *particularly* interested in a small subset of them. so if someone is doing
> a web search for a sequence or a pair of sequences he may find the list of
> potential relations and ideally find a nontrivial relation by examining them
> (that's the main reason i posted a large list. it happened to me when doing
> web search ironically to end up on my site - the search results were < 10)
>
> 3. a new computer program may prune the large number of relations e.g. by
> verifying them to the max available terms or deleting trivially related (by
> definition) sequences.
>
>
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