[seqfan] Re: A000000

gould at math.wvu.edu gould at math.wvu.edu
Wed Jun 16 23:43:18 CEST 2010


“
O wad some Power the giftie gie us
To see oursels as ithers see us!
It wad frae monie a blunder free us
 “

~ Robert Burns,
   poet laureate of Scotland (1759-1796)

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> Charles Greathouse
> Analyst/Programmer
> Case Western Reserve University
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> On Wed, Jun 16, 2010 at 3:53 PM, Richard Guy <rkg at cpsc.ucalgary.ca> wrote:
>> I sh'd've added: compare: weave -woven,
>> cleave - cloven, which gives a hint for
>> the preferred (?) pronunciation.   R.
>>
>> On Wed, 16 Jun 2010, Richard Guy wrote:
>>
>>> The past participle `proven' is of the obsolete
>>> verb `to preve', meaning to test (NOT `prove'
>>> in the mathematical sense, whatever that might be).
>>> It survives in the third verdict in Scottish law:
>>> Not Proven.  Also in `proof' of spiritous liquors,
>>> which is out of 200.  Anything over 100 still
>>> allows gunpowder, after being wetted with it, to
>>> burn.  Also in phrases such as `a well proven
>>> remedy' which usually works, but not always.  R.
>>>
>>> On Wed, 16 Jun 2010, Robert Israel wrote:
>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Wed, 16 Jun 2010, N. J. A. Sloane wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> PS and the past tense of "to prove" is "proved", not "proven".
>>>>>
>>>>>> conjectured to be empty or proven empty.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Best regards
>>>>>                      Neil
>>>>
>>>> The past tense is "proved", but the past participle and attributive
>>>> adjective can be either "proved" or "proven".  See e.g.
>>>> <http://forum.wordreference.com/showthread.php?t=54120>
>>>> <http://books.google.ca/books?id=2yJusP0vrdgC&pg=PA784>
>>>>
>>>> Robert Israel                                israel at math.ubc.ca
>>>> Department of Mathematics        http://www.math.ubc.ca/~israel
>>>> University of British Columbia            Vancouver, BC, Canada
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