[seqfan] Re: Broadening involvement

Tue Jun 12 15:27:01 CEST 2012

Dear SeqFans, dear Editors,

I think it is absolutely indispensable to tag "music" sequences such
as listed for
http://oeis.org/search?q=beethoven

by a specific keyword, since they really have not much of a
"mathematical" integer sequence ; especially those who are "MIDI"
formatted correspond to "binary data in arbitrary format",
much like if one submitted images of classical work (Mona Lisa,....)
in JPEG or TIFF or PNG or similar formats.
(I would be less categorical for the "purified" information where a
melody would be recorded as sequence of the frequencies, like C = -12,
C# = -11, D = -10, ... c = 0...c' = 12 etc, or anything comparable,
which would have the same reason of existance as classical texts coded
 in some simple A=1,...Z=26 system, or an "almost universal standard"
format like ASCII or UTF which essentially differs from A=1,... just
by some shift resp. additional bits.)

I agree to a very large extend with Olivier's previous message, namely
that discussions can be started on this list, but should then go on in
some dedicated place
(a mailing list is not a discussion group !), that's why I created

https://oeis.org/wiki/Talk:The_multi-faceted_reach_of_the_OEIS

Regards,

Maximilian

On Mon, Jun 11, 2012 at 7:42 PM, Charles Greathouse
<charles.greathouse at case.edu> wrote:
> I've added some information to that page:
> http://oeis.org/wiki/The_multi-faceted_reach_of_the_OEIS
> based on some sequences I remember and some I searched for, but my
> knowledge is limited.  Anyone with examples -- especially regarding
> the humanities -- is welcome to edit the page.
>
> Perhaps this will eventually look nice, but at the moment I've focused
> on collecting examples even if the format is plain and the
> descriptions basic.  (But certainly, if you're sufficiently
> knowledgeable about a subject, please add more detail!)
>
> Examples so far: Le Corbusier's use of phi and other numbers in
> architecture; the counts from Mozart's Register-Aria; combinatorial
> structures with applications to population genetics; leaf branching
> (phyllotaxis); memory tests and learnability of Boolean categories;
> classifications of objects; the periodic table;  quark and gluon
> diagrams; physical constants; a fundamental constant from quantum
> mechanics; astronomical transits; various historical objects with
> mathematical significance; minimization of Boolean formulas; logic
> circuits; resistors.
>
> Charles Greathouse
> Analyst/Programmer
> Case Western Reserve University
>
> On Sun, Jun 10, 2012 at 7:38 PM, Alonso Del Arte
> <alonso.delarte at gmail.com> wrote:
>> To help track this broadening involvement, I have started this page in the
>> OEIS Wiki: http://oeis.org/wiki/The_multi-faceted_reach_of_the_OEIS Right
>> now it just contains a few examples off the top of my head, but I would
>> like to include the ornithology examples Charles alluded to earlier.
>>
>> Al
>>
>> On Sat, Jun 9, 2012 at 11:52 AM, Charles Greathouse <
>> charles.greathouse at case.edu> wrote:
>>
>>> > First thing is to enter these sequences in the OEIS by ourselves: anyone
>>> > looking up these sequences may find them along with the original article.
>>>
>>> Yes, absolutely.  The example I gave is A005646.
>>>
>>> > If you are knowledgeable in an under-represented subject in the OEIS,
>>> > any fresh publication (article, blog, ...) from you mentioning the
>>> > OEIS with links and description can help.
>>>
>>> Yes.  Any sort of publicity in those under-represented subjects is
>>> good.  And of course adding new sequences -- or adding information
>>> about the applicability of existing sequences to those subjects -- is
>>> also useful.
>>>
>>> Charles Greathouse
>>> Analyst/Programmer
>>> Case Western Reserve University
>>>
>>> On Fri, Jun 8, 2012 at 7:46 PM, Olivier Gerard <olivier.gerard at gmail.com>
>>> wrote:
>>> > On Sat, Jun 9, 2012 at 1:17 AM, Charles Greathouse <
>>> > charles.greathouse at case.edu> wrote:
>>> >
>>> >> Sequence fans, I've been pondering ways to increase the representation
>>> of
>>> >> fields in the OEIS.
>>> >>
>>> >> Combinatorics, number theory, recreational math, and computer science
>>> are
>>> >> well-represented, as are a few others. But other fields of math have
>>> much
>>> >> less, and outside of math (biology, chemistry, economics, physics, ...)
>>> >> there is very little. Perhaps well-defined integer sequences are simply
>>> >> hard to find outside of these few fields. But the thesis is dubious --
>>> I've
>>> >> seen at least two papers devoted exclusively to an integer sequence
>>> >> published in anthropology journals, and I recall an ornithology paper
>>> about
>>> >> combinatorial syntax of songbirds.  More likely, I think, is that
>>> people in
>>> >> other fields are unaware (or less-aware) of the OEIS.
>>> >>
>>> >>
>>> > First thing is to enter these sequences in the OEIS by ourselves: anyone
>>> > looking up these sequences may find them along with the original article.
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >> Probably this is self-reinforcing: if there were more such sequences
>>> others
>>> >> would find the OEIS more useful and be more likely to read it -- and
>>> >> contribute to it -- in the future.  So how can we get from here to
>>> there?
>>> >>
>>> >>
>>> > The second thing seems to contact the author of these articles on behalf
>>> > of the OEIS, and invite them (and propose your help) to submit other
>>> > sequences
>>> > they might have, especially if they are planning new articles on related
>>> > subjects.
>>> > I have found out that several authors of articles I contacted did know
>>> > and use the OEIS to check whether their sequence was known but did not
>>> > bother to enter them if it wasn't, or stumbled on a small user interface
>>> > difficulty
>>> > when doing so, did not make any reference to the encyclopedia or did not
>>> > insist it was
>>> > kept when a journal editor suggested otherwise.
>>> > Of course, if they didn't know about the OEIS, they might be grateful or
>>> > indifferent.
>>> >
>>> > Another (more difficult or more specific) strategy would be to publish
>>> > something in the same
>>> > journals and insist that sequences in your article be referenced by the
>>> > OEIS. If you
>>> > are knowledgeable in an under-represented subject in the OEIS, any fresh
>>> > publication
>>> > (article, blog, ...) from you mentioning the OEIS with links and
>>> > description can help.
>>> >
>>> > Olivier
>>> >
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