[seqfan] Re: A000041 partition sequence
Bob Selcoe
rselcoe at entouchonline.net
Sun Aug 3 10:25:55 CEST 2014
Hi William,
Thanks for the input. First, yes, the observation about subtracting the
pentagonal recurrence to find 1 makes sense - in fact, I also included it
in my initial posting, which the editors reverted because (among other
things) it contained too much info. I intended to make a second posting
(after this one gets published) with this and one or two additional
observations. But first things first.
Second, I disagree that this is an "obfuscated" version of the Pentagonal
sequence. As I mentioned in our earlier correspondence:
>>>>Specifically, the initial terms of F(G) when G > the G-th pentagonal
>>>>number (P) are: a(n-1) + a(n-2) - a(n-5) - a(n-7) + a(n-12), -
>>>>a(n-15)... +/- a(n-P). (following the "+ + - -" pattern).
As the sequence gets larger there are many variations - if you prefer to
call them "baroque", that's fine - but they are defined and easily
calculable; and I think interesting in and of themselves. The point
wasn't to show the most efficient calculations of a(n) but a novel way of
approaching them. But I also expect there are subpatterns which can be seen
more easily with this approach than using a more "efficient" calculation
method (like pentagonals) - so in that regard they may have additional
merit.
I also think it would be useful to add two triangles on the site containing
j-values:
1) the rows of f(g) (pertains to A026794 - Triangular array T read by rows:
T(n,k) = number of partitions of n in which least part is k, 1<=k<=n);
and 2) the rows of F(G). My only issue is how to show multipliers in the
sequences. (For example, row 5 of f(g) would be {5, -6, -7,
2*10, -13, -14, 15}. does "2*10" make sense?). But again, that's a
question for another time.
Anyway, the reason I asked for input on the Seqfan list was at the urging of
an editor; I was hoping for clarification on the proper way to format the
ideas (notation, terms, phrasing, etc.) and to see if the comment or formula
is preferred as a post on A000041 (partition sequence). I intend to offer
a comment or formula one way or the other and let the editors decide,
ultimately, if it should be posted. I just want to use the best format and
most understandable language.
Cheers,
Bob
PS - as I mentioned in our off-list correspondence I made a couple typos in
the posted comment. For others reading this email: Most importantly, the
j<=2g+1 constraint applies only for F(G), not f(g); so f(4) = a(n-4) -
a(n-5) - a(n-6) + a(n-7) - a(n-7) + a(n-8) + a(n-9) - a(n-10) (final term
added); My apologies for the error.
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From: "William Keith" <william.keith at gmail.com>
Sent: Sunday, August 03, 2014 1:54 AM
To: "Sequence Fanatics Discussion list" <seqfan at list.seqfan.eu>
Subject: [seqfan] Re: A000041 partition sequence
> Bob:
>
> Okay. It seems to me that what you have is simply an obfuscated
> version of the pentagonal recurrence. For example, for 6 <= n <= 11, the
> PNT says
>
> a(n) = a(n-1) + a(n-2) - a(n-5) - a(n-7)
>
> and your recurrence says
>
> a(n) = 1 + a(n-1) + a(n-2) - a(n-5) - a(n-6) - a(n-7) + a(n-8) + a(n-9) +
> a(n-10) - a(n-13) - a(n-14) + a(n-15).
>
> But of course for 6 <= n <= 11, a(n-13) and lower terms are zero. So drop
> them. Then if we subtract, we get
>
> 0 = 1 - a(n-6) + a(n-8) + a(n-9) + a(n-10)
>
> or
>
> a(n-6) - a(n-8) - a(n-9) + a(n-10) = 1
>
> for this segment of the partition numbers, which is true.
>
> There might be a nugget of combinatorial interest here involving sets of
> partition numbers which sum to 1 under suitable signs, but I don't really
> feel inclined to hunt for it. Sorry. One can come up with all kinds of
> increasingly baroque constructions involving known sequences. Since the
> expression for each F(G) implies that some moving frame of coefficients
> must sum to 1, perhaps the triangle of terms which sum to 1 would make a
> suitable sequence.
>
> Cordially,
> William Keith
>
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