[seqfan] Re: Listing articles under links

Neil Sloane njasloane at gmail.com
Sat Feb 15 23:32:54 CET 2014


Many very serious scientists (especially those with tenure)
are giving on commercial journals and publishing only
on servers like the arXiv.

In any case I don't think it is possible or desirable
to try to separate refereed articles from non-refereed ones.

There are so many low-quality journals now that being published
in a "refereed" journal means very little!

Neil


On Sat, Feb 15, 2014 at 5:10 PM, Charles Greathouse <
charles.greathouse at case.edu> wrote:

> The trouble is that right now that distinction isn't made, so if the change
> was made many -- maybe even most! -- would become definitionally invalid.
>
> I actually think that this is probably the right way to go, that the
> distinction between a peer-reviewed paper vs. some resource is a valuable
> one, but this would take a great deal of effort to get right.
>
> Charles Greathouse
> Analyst/Programmer
> Case Western Reserve University
>
>
> On Sat, Feb 15, 2014 at 8:33 AM, M. F. Hasler <oeis at hasler.fr> wrote:
>
> > Dear SeqFans,
> >
> > I do agree that a reference needs not to be there twice.
> > However, IMHO, one should be allowed to add references with links in the
> > REFERENCES section.
> > I there there would be much more "added value"/information/sense in
> > distinguishing:
> >
> > REFERENCES = articles published in books or journals (typically: with
> > editorial board and/or reviewing process)
> > vs
> > LINKS = links to web pages, blogs, pictures, supporting files...
> > (typically, self-publication)
> >
> > rather than
> >
> > REFS = refs w/o link
> > vs
> > LINKS = anything with links
> >
> > Nowadays, almost any serious scientific publication has a DOI and thus a
> > link ; any book has an ISBN and thus a link.
> > So the REFERENCES field will tend to collect only "outdated" references
> of
> > the 1900's,
> > and become much less significant than it should be.
> > So once again I'd be strongly in favour of allowing (and encouraging, but
> > not requiring) links in the REFERENCES field, and put any "serious"
> > reference rather there than into LINKS.
> >
> > Maximilian
> >
> >
> > On Sat, Feb 15, 2014 at 7:03 AM, Susanne Wienand
> > <susanne.wienand at gmail.com>wrote:
> >
> > > Dear seqfans,
> > >
> > > I was convinced to rather delete a reference after 'translating' it to
> a
> > > link. Even if the link is broken some day, it still contains the
> > > information of the reference and can be 're-translated' to a reference
> > > before being deleted.
> > >
> > > Regards
> > > Susanne
> > >
> > >
> > > 2013-08-10 9:09 GMT+02:00 Susanne Wienand <susanne.wienand at gmail.com>:
> > >
> > > > Dear seqfans,
> > > >
> > > > thank you for your answers.
> > > > So I just would add such papers under links. Then the information
> about
> > > > the paper is still under references if the link should be deleted
> some
> > > day
> > > > because of being broken.
> > > >
> > > > Regards
> > > > Susanne
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > 2013/8/9 Charles Greathouse <charles.greathouse at case.edu>
> > > >
> > > >> Exactly. Replacing a bare reference with a link which has the same
> > > >> information (plus the URL) is beneficial.
> > > >>
> > > >> Charles Greathouse
> > > >> Analyst/Programmer
> > > >> Case Western Reserve University
> > > >>
> > > >>
> > > >> On Fri, Aug 9, 2013 at 4:50 AM, Richard J. Mathar <
> > > mathar at mpia-hd.mpg.de
> > > >> >wrote:
> > > >>
> > > >> > Concerning
> > > >> http://list.seqfan.eu/pipermail/seqfan/2013-August/011548.html:
> > > >> >
> > > >> > The format is to add another URL in the the same line of
> > > >> > the OEIS link section of a sequence:
> > > >> >
> > > >> > A. Uthor1, A. Uthor2, <a href="http://dx.whatever...">About
> almost
> > > >> > everything</a>, Orig. J. All Seq. 42 (2011) Lxi-Lxii; <a href="
> > > >> > http://myome.page/AAE.pdf">[Alternative link]</a>
> > > >> >
> > > >> > The added value of free access outweighs the disadvantage of links
> > > that
> > > >> > break later on.
> > > >> >
> > > >> > Richard Mathar
> > > >> >
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