[seqfan] Re: Pieces of cake sequence A265286 and a question

Neil Sloane njasloane at gmail.com
Sun Jan 24 19:27:51 CET 2016


Max, Very interesting! I have taken the liberty of adding that comment to
A265286.

So if L(n) denotes the min max denominator, your result is that L(6) = 120
(instead of
LCM{1..6} = 60).

I would guess that L(1)=1, L(2)=2,  L(3)=6, L(4)=12,  L(5)=60. Do you know
if this is correct?


Best regards
Neil

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On Sun, Jan 24, 2016 at 10:33 AM, Max Alekseyev <maxale at gmail.com> wrote:

> For n=6, the minimum smallest piece in an 11-piece solution equals 1/120,
> like in
> [1/120, 1/40, 1/30, 7/120, 3/40, 11/120, 13/120, 1/8, 17/120, 1/6, 1/6]
>
> It would take about 37 days of single-core computations in Sage+Gurobi.
> Luckily I run on a 40-core system and it took only about a day to establish
> the above result.
>
> Regards,
> Max
>
> On Fri, Jan 22, 2016 at 7:21 PM, Max Alekseyev <maxale at gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > Neil,
> >
> > Frankly speaking, I do not know how to get all the solutions for a MILP
> > problem. I'm using Sage (powered with Gurobi solver) here and it reports
> > only one solution.
> >
> > Instead, I've tried to minimize the smallest piece in a solution and
> found
> > that 1/120 is the smallest possible piece (in a 9-piece solution) for
> n=5.
> > This does not guarantee though that the denominator cannot go above 120
> > (e.g., this does not eliminate a possibility of a part being, say,
> 7/240).
> > Now it's running for n=6.
> >
> > Regards,
> > Max
> >
> >
> > On Fri, Jan 22, 2016 at 4:38 PM, Neil Sloane <njasloane at gmail.com>
> wrote:
> >
> >> OK, then I will add the question to A265286.
> >>
> >> But your integer programming approach make it possible to find ALL the
> >> solutions for small n,
> >> right, so in principal the question could be answered?
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> Best regards
> >> Neil
> >>
> >> Neil J. A. Sloane, President, OEIS Foundation.
> >> 11 South Adelaide Avenue, Highland Park, NJ 08904, USA.
> >> Also Visiting Scientist, Math. Dept., Rutgers University, Piscataway,
> NJ.
> >> Phone: 732 828 6098; home page: http://NeilSloane.com
> >> Email: njasloane at gmail.com
> >>
> >>
> >> On Fri, Jan 22, 2016 at 4:34 PM, Max Alekseyev <maxale at gmail.com>
> wrote:
> >>
> >> > Neil,
> >> > I'm sorry I misread your question. I do not know the answer and
> believe
> >> > your question is a hard one, provided that we don't even know how to
> >> > compute A265286 efficiently.
> >> > Regards,
> >> > Max
> >> >
> >> > On Fri, Jan 22, 2016 at 4:31 PM, Max Alekseyev <maxale at gmail.com>
> >> wrote:
> >> >
> >> > > Hi Neil,
> >> > > The second example in A265286 negatively answers your question.
> >> > > Regards,
> >> > > Max
> >> > >
> >> > > On Fri, Jan 22, 2016 at 3:45 PM, Neil Sloane <njasloane at gmail.com>
> >> > wrote:
> >> > >
> >> > >> Rainer R. mentioned Max Alekseyev's lovely sequence A265286.
> >> > >>
> >> > >> Given n, look for the smallest set of fractions {f_1, f_2, ...,
> f_M}
> >> in
> >> > >> the
> >> > >> range 0 to 1 such that for each k with 1 <= k <= n, we can
> partition
> >> the
> >> > >> f_i into k groups whose sums are equal. For n=5 the minimal M is 9,
> >> and
> >> > a
> >> > >> solution is
> >> > >> {1/60, 1/30, 1/20, 1/12, 7/60, 2/15, 1/6, 1/5, 1/5}
> >> > >>
> >> > >> OK, now look at all the solutions for a given value of n,
> >> > >> with M (the minimal value) parts. Now ask, what is the minimal
> >> > >> denominator?
> >> > >>
> >> > >> Is it always A003418(n) = LCM{1,2,...,n}?
> >> > >>
> >> > >> If not, we get a new sequence: given n, first minimize the number
> of
> >> > >> parts,
> >> > >> then minimize the biggest denominator
> >> > >>
> >> > >> Max, do you know the answer?
> >> > >>
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