[seqfan] Re: Comments on the software behing the new OEIS wiki

Neil Sloane njasloane at gmail.com
Mon Feb 12 12:29:18 CET 2018


Andrey,  Thanks for that message!

Concerning 1., there is a very simple solution:
Change the label on the button that now says "Approved" to "Submitted",
and change the label on the button that now says "Quality" to "Approved".
Can we do that?


Best regards
Neil

Neil J. A. Sloane, President, OEIS Foundation.
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On Sun, Feb 11, 2018 at 2:40 PM, Андрей Заболотский via SeqFan <
seqfan at list.seqfan.eu> wrote:

> 0. It's very very good that MediaWiki has been updated.
>
> 1. Yes, it is unbelivably stupid, and of course it can be set up to be
> much less stupid. To be more precise, "Approved" is a mark that Associate
> Editors can leave on a page version; moreover, they do it automatically if
> the previous version was "Approved" or "Reviewed" (the latter it the
> bureaucrats' mark). I wrote about it some time ago at
> https://oeis.org/wiki/User_talk:Charles_R_Greathouse_IV#Impovements
>  (second thread in the section). The "Approved" status does nothing, as far
> as I know, apart from confusing everyone. I strongly suggest either
> revoking the "review" and "autoreview" rights from Associate Editors or
> granting them the "validate" right (which will make them able to mark pages
> as "Reviewed" instead of "Approved"). This page
> https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:User_rights  describes how to do
> such things. Perhaps there's a more natural way to resolve this stupidity,
> but I can't say for sure without looking deeper into settings (which may
> require special rights).
>
> 2. It can be set up whether four tildes add the (talk) link or not: go to
> Preferences, type or copypaste your name to the "New signature" field,
> check the "Treat signature as wikitext" checkbox, click Save. Probably the
> (talk) link can be removed from the default signature globally. But note
> that the talk page isn't spurious, it's a way to leave you a public
> message, which is built-in and hence standard for MediaWIki.
>
>
> BR,
> AZ
>
> >Воскресенье, 11 февраля 2018, 21:15 +03:00 от Neil Sloane <
> njasloane at gmail.com>:
> >
> >This is not addressed to Russ - the new OEIS operating system is working
> >brilliantly
> >
> >1.  I think I have figured out how to tell if a page on our wiki is an
> >official approved page or not.
> >
> >If a wiki page says "Quality" up at the top right, with (if you hover)
> >"This is the stable version" then it seems to be the official approved
> >version. Meaning, approved by me or one of the other bureaucrats.
> >
> >But if a wiki page says "Approved page" up at the top right, with (if you
> >hover) "This is the latest approved version" then it is not yet the
> >official approved version, and to approve it I need to go to the foot of
> >the page, and click the "Approved" radio button. Then the label at the top
> >changes to "Quality".
> >
> >(This is so unbelievably stupid that I can't believe it is correct.)
> >
> >
> >2.  In the Deleted Sequences page on the wiki, if I add a line about a new
> >deletion and sign it with four tildes, then  what happens is that the four
> >tildes get translated into
> >
> >A296652 (Etienne) NOGI - N. J. A. Sloane (talk) 12:56, 9 February 2018
> (EST)
> >
> >as you can see by looking at the February deletions.  The link to the
> >"talk" page is something new.  Before the upgrade when I used four tildes
> >they just gave a link to my user page, not to a spurious "talk" page. Here
> >is an example:
> >
> >A293212 (Monturiel) NOGI - N. J. A. Sloane 14:15, 3 February 2018 (UTC)
> >
> >I suppose this is a feature, not a bug?  Anyway, I have stopped using 4
> >tildes to sign wiki pages.
> >
> >I know there are people on this list who speak mediawiki, maybe they can
> >explain what is going on.
> >
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