[seqfan] Re: Repunit wrapped primes

Neil Sloane njasloane at gmail.com
Sun Apr 28 17:42:22 CEST 2019


This is an OK sequence.  Please make enough improvements so that it can be
submitted (and then tell me so I can approve it).

Best regards
Neil

Neil J. A. Sloane, President, OEIS Foundation.
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On Sat, Apr 27, 2019 at 11:27 AM Hans L <thehans at gmail.com> wrote:

> Hi,
>
> For p=1823, I have k=9565 as probable prime using BPSW.
>
> Hans Loeblich
>
> On Sat, Apr 27, 2019 at 3:26 AM David Sycamore via SeqFan <
> seqfan at list.seqfan.eu> wrote:
>
> > Dear Seqfans,
> > Let kpk be the number obtained by placing k leading and trailing 1s
> around
> > prime p. Thus, for p=7 and k=1 we get the “repunit wrapped” prime 171,
> > which is composite (3*57)
> >
> > With k=2 we get 11711; also composite (7*1673). However, k=3 gives kpk =
> > 1117111, which is prime, and 3 is the smallest k >0 for which this is the
> > case.
> >
> > For many primes p we can find a k>0 such that kpk is prime, and define a
> > sequence where a(n) is the least k such that kprime(n)k is prime, or -1
> if
> > no such k exists. The sequence is easy to compute in cases where a k
> exists
> > within reach of modest computational means, but there are cases where it
> is
> > not clear that such a k exists or not. The  -1 terms are the challenge
> here.
> >
> > Examples where a(n)=-1:
> >
> > p=2: k2k is composite for all k>0 because it is divisible by the (k+1)-th
> > repunit. Ditto for p=101.
> >
> > p=11: k11k is always divisible by 11 for all k>0.
> >
> > p=37: k37k is composite for all k>0 since its factor cycle comprises a
> > covering congruence for k in which each residue class is associated with
> a
> > particular prime divisor (3, 13 or 37). Therefore any choice of k >0
> leads
> > to a divisor.
> >
> > The trouble starts when p= 397, 563, 739, 1249, 1823...
> >
> > In these cases the factor pattern reveals a specific prime divisor for
> all
> > but one single residue class of the covering congruence of k. For p=397
> we
> > find that k== 1(mod 3)—> 3/kpk, k== 2(mod 3)—>37/kpk, k==3(mod 6)—>7/kpk.
> > But for the remaining k==6 (mod 6) there is always (k<=30000) a prime
> > divisor of k397k,  but it’s never the same one, so there is apparently no
> > possibility to predict a divisor for any k divisible by 6.  Therefore all
> > we can say is that if there is a k that makes k397k prime, then it must
> be
> > a multiple of 6 and >30000. Alternatively a proof is needed that for all
> > k==6 (mod 6) k397k is composite.
> >
> > To make matters worse,  there are cases like the above (a residue class
> > with no distinct prime divisor associated with it) for which we do
> > eventually reach a k such that  kpk becomes prime. An example of this is
> > p=61, for which k=repunit of length 14 gives k61k prime, and 14 belongs
> to
> > k=={0,2,5} (mod 6) which has no fixed prime divisor associated with it,
> > whereas the other two, k==1 (mod2) and k== {3,4} (mod 6) are associated
> > with prime divisors 3 and 13 respectively. There are plenty of other
> > examples like this one.
> >
> > It’s a bit like the de Polignac problem, and whilst the use of covering
> > congruences is promising, there are cases where It is hard to be sure
> for a
> > given p, whether a k>0 exists or not.
> >
> > Can anyone offer suggestions to resolve this question for the troublesome
> > primes mentioned above?
> >
> > I have entered draft sequence A306861 in an attempt to record  the least
> k
> > for which kpk is prime,  and -1 if no such k exists. The current draft,
> > including data up to n=86 includes prime(78)=397, for which an uncertain
> > (but perhaps highly likely) term -1 has been recorded.
> > The other four “-1” terms in the present data (p=2,11,37,101) can be
> > confirmed as explained above. Assuming the sequence is accepted there
> will
> > be a need to confirm values for n> 86, which would include the
> > indeterminate cases mentioned above (eventually for a b-file).
> >
> > Included in the Comments of draft A306861 is a conjecture that there are
> > an infinite number of -1 terms (primes p for which kpk is composite for
> all
> > k>0).  Can anyone suggest a proof, or argue that the list of such primes
> is
> > finite?
> >
> > I would like to improve draft A306861 and submit it for review sometime
> > soon.  Any assistance gratefully received.
> >
> > Best regards
> >
> > David.
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
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