[seqfan] Re: Help with a(n) and a cumulative sum
israel at math.ubc.ca
israel at math.ubc.ca
Tue Jul 16 06:30:45 CEST 2019
Yes, it will continue. E.g. from the recurrence relation, a(n) mod 9 is
determined by a(n-3),a(n-2),a(n-1) mod 9. So once the 4-tuple 1,6,4,3
occurs a second time, the rest must continue with a(n) == a(n-6) mod 9.
Cheers,
Robert
On Jul 15 2019, Ali Sada via SeqFan wrote:
> Dear Dr. Israel,
>In your sequence, A308900, a(n) mod 9 is
>1,6,4,3,7,0,1,6,4,3,7,0,1,6,4,3,7,0
>Will this pattern continue? And if so why?
>I really appreciate your response in advance.
>Best,
>Ali
>
>
>
> On Monday, July 15, 2019, 3:57:05 PM EDT, jean-paul allouche
> <jean-paul.allouche at imj-prg.fr> wrote:
>
> Dear Neil, dear all
>
>Yes it looks like a topological argument should make it. (But
>it is not really clear to me [yet] how to do this.)
>
>best wishes
>jean-paul
>
>Le 15/07/2019 à 05:53, Neil Sloane a écrit :
>> Robert, I was just looking at A309151, as it happens. Could you add
>> your sequence 1, 6, 4, 66, 34, 666, 334, ... to the OEIS please? It is
>> a useful data point.
>>
>> Is A309151 going to need an argument from topology to show that it exists
>> (thus proving I was wrong when I said it was not deep!) ? Jean-Paul?
>>
>> Best regards
>> Neil
>>
>> Neil J. A. Sloane, President, OEIS Foundation.
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>>
>>
>>
>> On Sun, Jul 14, 2019 at 11:29 PM <israel at math.ubc.ca> wrote:
>>
>>> There are infinite sequences such that a(n) doesn't share any digit
>>> with the cumulative sum. For example: 1, 6, 4, 66, 34, 666, 334, ...
>>> with cumulative sums 1, 7, 11, 77, 111, 777, 1111, ... So your sequence
>>> A309151 can indeed be infinite.
>>>
>>> Cheers,
>>> Robert
>>>
>>> On Jul 14 2019, Éric Angelini wrote:
>>>
>>>> Hello SeqFans, Here is the draft of a strange sequence:
>>>> https://oeis.org/draft/A309151 It says: Lexicographically earliest
>>>> sequence of different terms starting with a(1) = 1 such that a(n)
>>> doesn't
>>>> share any digit with the cumulative sum a(1) + a(2) + a(3) + ... +
>>> a(n-1)
>>>> + a(n). And in the Comments section: As this sequence needs a lot of
>>>> backtracking, we don't guarantee the accuracy of the last 79 integers
>>>> of the 1079-term b-file. Indeed, the problem comes from the fact that
>>>> some cumulative sums quickly block the extension of the sequence. This
>>>> is the case with 10 (or any other sum ending in zero). But this is the
>>>> case too with 301 after
>>>> 1,2,3,5,4,6,7,8,9,10,11,12,14,22,20,23,24,30,13,15,16,18,28. So, we
>>>> bumped quite often in a "bad sum" (on the average, the sequence was
>>>> extended by 100 terms for every backtrack). To make a prior list of
>>>> "bad sums" is difficult (meaning impossible, I guess): 258002 is such
>>>> a "bad sum" if you have previously used {1,3,4,6,7,9,39,49,69,79} else
>>>> 258002 + 79 = 258081 would be ok. So my questions are: could the
>>>> sequence be infinite? Could a list of "bad sum numbers" be easely
>>>> defined and used? Post-scriptum: I am working, together with
>>>> Jean-Marc, on the variants: "Lexicographically [...] such that a(n)
>>>> shares exacly k digit with the cumulative sum a(1) + a(2) + a(3) + ...
>>>> + a(n-1) + a(n)", with k = 1, 2, 3, ... Best, É.
>>>>
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