# [seqfan] Re: Question from Harvey Dale about A233552

Harvey P. Dale hpd at hpdale.org
Mon May 27 04:33:05 CEST 2019

```	Of the many helpful responses, Robert's is particularly helpful. He finds, for example, that k=6615 shows that 751 is not a term. If there is no top limit to k, how can we be sure than ANY of the suggested terms for the sequence is correct?
Best,
Harvey

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Subject: [seqfan] Re: Question from Harvey Dale about A233552

On the other hand 373 should not be there, as (373*4^2508-1)/3 is prime.
Nor 499, as (499*4^648-1)/3 is prime.
Nor 613, as (613*4^214-1)/3 is prime.
Nor 751, as (751*4^6615-1)/3 is prime.
Cheers,
Robert

On May 26 2019, mailto:israel at math.ubc.ca wrote:

>Note that if n=m^2 is a square, n*4^k-1 = (m*2^k-1)*(m*2^k+1), so (if
>m*2^k-1 > 3) (n*4^k-1)/3 must be composite. Thus 25, 49, 121, 169, 289,
>373, 529, 625, 751, 841, 961 should certainly be in the sequence.
>
>Cheers,
>Robert
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>On May 26 2019, Neil Sloane wrote:
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>>Harvey just asked me the following question.  Can anyone help?
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>>I may be missing something, but there seem to be many terms missing
>>from the above sequence. My calculations show that, up to 1000, each
>>of 25, 49, 121, 169, 289, 361, 373, 499, 529, 613, 625, 751, 841, 919,
>>and 961 satisfies the definition, but only 361 and 919 appear in the
>>data. Am I overlooking something? Also, I'm not sure how to test "all
>>k >=1" because that would require going up to infinity - so, is there
>>some top limit to the value of k that should be tested, e.g., k<=n? Or
>>is there some other way to do the test that doesn't require generating lots of terms?
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