[seqfan] Re: A000000

Charles Greathouse charles.greathouse at case.edu
Wed Jun 16 22:31:26 CEST 2010


What, are we the LINGUIST List now? ;)
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Charles Greathouse
Analyst/Programmer
Case Western Reserve University

On Wed, Jun 16, 2010 at 3:53 PM, Richard Guy <rkg at cpsc.ucalgary.ca> wrote:
> I sh'd've added: compare: weave -woven,
> cleave - cloven, which gives a hint for
> the preferred (?) pronunciation.   R.
>
> On Wed, 16 Jun 2010, Richard Guy wrote:
>
>> The past participle `proven' is of the obsolete
>> verb `to preve', meaning to test (NOT `prove'
>> in the mathematical sense, whatever that might be).
>> It survives in the third verdict in Scottish law:
>> Not Proven.  Also in `proof' of spiritous liquors,
>> which is out of 200.  Anything over 100 still
>> allows gunpowder, after being wetted with it, to
>> burn.  Also in phrases such as `a well proven
>> remedy' which usually works, but not always.  R.
>>
>> On Wed, 16 Jun 2010, Robert Israel wrote:
>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Wed, 16 Jun 2010, N. J. A. Sloane wrote:
>>>
>>>> PS and the past tense of "to prove" is "proved", not "proven".
>>>>
>>>>> conjectured to be empty or proven empty.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Best regards
>>>>                      Neil
>>>
>>> The past tense is "proved", but the past participle and attributive
>>> adjective can be either "proved" or "proven".  See e.g.
>>> <http://forum.wordreference.com/showthread.php?t=54120>
>>> <http://books.google.ca/books?id=2yJusP0vrdgC&pg=PA784>
>>>
>>> Robert Israel                                israel at math.ubc.ca
>>> Department of Mathematics        http://www.math.ubc.ca/~israel
>>> University of British Columbia            Vancouver, BC, Canada
>>>
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