[seqfan] Re: "half-Stirling numbers of the first kind"
Vladimir Shevelev
shevelev at bgu.ac.il
Mon Oct 1 15:12:29 CEST 2012
Dear SeqFans,
It appears that the problem 3) has a simple solution. Consider a permutation
(k_1,...,k_n) of numbers (1,...,n). A test when it is a permutation
of the second indices in summands of hperm of square matrix A={a_(i,j)} of order n (let us call such a permutation a suitable one) is the following.
We distinguish two cases. 1) Both k_{n-1} and k_n differ from 1 and n. Then the permutation is suitable iff k_{n-1}<k_n;
2) Otherwise, the permutation is suitable iff k_{n-1}=1 or (and) k_n=n.
Regards,
Vladimir
----- Original Message -----
From: Vladimir Shevelev <shevelev at bgu.ac.il>
Date: Tuesday, September 25, 2012 4:31
Subject: [seqfan] Re: "half-Stirling numbers of the first kind"
To: Sequence Fanatics Discussion list <seqfan at list.seqfan.eu>
> Dear Olivier,
>
> You are right, they are equivalent problems, and your
> calculation is excellent. However, concretely in this problem, I
> am not able to describe this constraint on the relative
> position of two first symbols, such that the problem 3) remains open.
>
> Best regards,
> Vladimir
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Olivier Gerard <olivier.gerard at gmail.com>
> Date: Tuesday, September 25, 2012 2:22
> Subject: [seqfan] Re: "half-Stirling numbers of the first kind"
> To: Sequence Fanatics Discussion list <seqfan at list.seqfan.eu>
>
> > Dear Vladimir,
> >
> > If I understand your idea correctly, this is equivalent to the
> > followingproblem:
> >
> > Counting permutations by cycles with a constraint on the
> > relative position
> > of two first symbols (as
> > you are starting from a 2x2 matrix). Permutations with the
> > pattern ... 1
> > ... 2 .... are easy to compute.
> >
> > This gives the following triangle:
> >
> > 0 | 0
> >
> > 1 | 0 1
> >
> > 3 | 1 1 1
> >
> > 12 | 3 5 3 1
> >
> > 60 | 12 24 17 6 1
> >
> > 360 | 60 134 110 45 10 1
> >
> > 2520 | 360 870 799 375 100 15 1
> >
> > 20160 | 2520 6474 6489 3409 1050 196 21 1
> >
> >
> > It is not currently in the OEIS. If you agree, I propose to
> > enter it in the
> > Encyclopedia with reference to this mail.
> >
> >
> > With my best regards,
> >
> >
> > Olivier GERARD
> >
> >
> >
> > On Tue, Sep 25, 2012 at 2:42 PM, Vladimir Shevelev
> > <shevelev at bgu.ac.il>wrote:
> > > Dear SeqFans,
> > >
> > > Let us define recursively half-permanent (hperm) of a square
> > nxn (n>=2)
> > > matrix. For 2x2 matrix A with usual 2-index numeration
> > elements, we put
> > > hperm(A)=a_{11}*a_{22}. For 3x3 matrix, by the
> expansion
> > over its first
> > > row (without alternating signs), and using the
> > definition of
> > > half-permanent for 2x2 matrices, we define
> > >
> >
> hperm(A)=a_{11}*a_{22}*a_{33}+a_{12}*a_{21}*a_{33}+a_{13}*a_{21}*a_{32}.> In the same way, using the definition of half-permanent for 3x3 matrices,
> > > we define hperm(A) for 4x4 matrix, etc.
> > > Consider permutations of (1,2), (1,2,3), (1,2,3,4), etc.
> given
> > by the
> > > second indices in summands. In case n=2, we have only
> > permutation (1,2)
> > > with two cycles; in case
> > > n=3, we have 3 permutations (1,2,3),(2,1,3),(3,1,2) with
> 3,2,1
> > cycles> respectively; in case n=4 we have 12 permutations: one
> > with 4 cycles, 3
> > > with 3 cycles, 5 with 2 cycles and 3 with one cycle. Thus we
> > obtain the
> > > triangle (number of permutations of n elements over number
> of
> > cycles:> 1,2,3,...)
> > > (1)
> > > 0 1
> > > 1 1 1
> > > 3 5 3 1
> > > ....
> > > with row sums n!/2, n>=2.
> > > It is natural to call these numbers "half-Stirling of the
> > first kind".
> > > Problems: 1) To coninue the triangle; 2) To find a GF for
> half-
> > Stirling> numbers of the first kind; 3) Consider a permutation
> > (k_1,...,k_n) of
> > > numbers (1,...,n). To find a test when it is a permutation
> of
> > the second
> > > indices in summands of hperm of square matrix A={a_(i,j)} of
> > order n.
> > >
> > > Regards,
> > > Vladimir
> > >
> > >
> > > Shevelev Vladimir
> > >
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