[seqfan] Re: How to calculate oblong root?

Neil Sloane njasloane at gmail.com
Mon Jun 22 07:28:18 CEST 2015


> The floor is not in the database.
Please add it!
Best regards
Neil

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On Mon, Jun 22, 2015 at 12:24 AM, Frank Adams-Watters
<franktaw at netscape.net> wrote:
> Note that the ceiling of this function (sqrt(n+1/4)-1/2) is A000194. The floor is not in the database.
>
> Franklin T. Adams-Watters
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: David Applegate <david at research.att.com>
> To: seqfan <seqfan at list.seqfan.eu>
> Sent: Sun, Jun 21, 2015 10:57 pm
> Subject: [seqfan] Re: How to calculate oblong root?
>
>
> That definition of oblongroot(n) is ambiguous.  If n is not an oblong
> number,
> then any x that satisfies
> floor(oblongroot(n)) < x < ceil(oblongroot(n))
> will
> also satisfy the definition of oblongroot(n).
>
> Why not just define
> oblongroot(n)=m, where m satisfies m^2 + m = n,
> that is, oblongroot(n) =
> sqrt(n+1/4)-1/2 (and the secondary oblong
> root is -sqrt(n+1/4)-1/2)?
>
> David
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>> From seqfan-bounces at list.seqfan.eu Sun Jun 21 21:48:44 2015
>>
> Date: Sun, 21 Jun 2015 21:47:43 -0400
>> From: Alonso Del Arte
> <alonso.delarte at gmail.com>
>> To: Sequence Fanatics Discussion list
> <seqfan at list.seqfan.eu>
>> Subject: [seqfan] How to calculate oblong root?
>
>> The
> principal square root function is a function that is useful not only in
>>
> mathematics but in many sciences. The principal oblong root function is
>>
> significantly less useful, but once in a while it comes in handy, as in for
>>
> example, the oblong number equivalent of A048761, the smallest square
>> greater
> than or equal to n.
>
>> If n is an integer of the form m * (m + 1) or m^2 + m
> with m also an
>> integer, then oblongroot(n) = m. But if n is not of that form,
> then
>> oblongroot(n) returns some number, possibly irrational, such that
>>
> floor(oblongroot(n)) * ceiling(oblongroot(n)) is the smallest oblong number
>>
> greater than n.
>
>> Maybe the formula for oblongroot(n) is very easy, but at the
> moment, I
>> don't see what it is.
>
>> Al
>
>> P.S. The secondary oblong root is a
> negative integer of the form -(m + 1),
>> e.g., -5 is the secondary oblong root
> for 20.
>
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