[seqfan] Re: A269526, an infinite Sudoku-type array

Rob Pratt Rob.Pratt at sas.com
Fri Jul 1 20:47:16 CEST 2016


Neil meant A274616 instead of A274177.

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Rob, I created a new entry A274177 for the solution to the nonattacking queens on a triangular board (and I corrected the comment and the reference in A004396).

For a board of size K (with K(K+1)/2) squares, as you say, the max number is roughly 2K/3. This is enough to complete Bob's proof that every row in
A269526 is a permutation.

Proving that the diagonals are permutations will involve a similar argument although I didn't check all the details yet.

Best regards
Neil

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On Fri, Jul 1, 2016 at 11:23 AM, Rob Pratt <Rob.Pratt at sas.com> wrote:

> It doesn't appear to be in OEIS.
>
> The first 50 terms are:
> 1, 1, 2, 2, 3, 4, 5, 5, 6, 7, 7, 8, 9, 9, 10, 11, 11, 12, 13, 13, 14, 
> 15, 15, 16, 17, 17, 18, 19, 19, 20, 21, 21, 22, 23, 23, 24, 25, 25, 
> 26, 27, 27, 28, 29, 29, 30, 31, 31, 32, 33, 33
>
> Except for n = 4, it looks like round(2n/3).  See first comment in 
> http://oeis.org/A004396.
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: SeqFan [mailto:seqfan-bounces at list.seqfan.eu] On Behalf Of Neil 
> Sloane
> Sent: Friday, July 01, 2016 9:18 AM
> To: Sequence Fanatics Discussion list <seqfan at list.seqfan.eu>
> Subject: [seqfan] Re: A269526, an infinite Sudoku-type array
>
> I agree that argument proves that the columns are permutations.
>
> The proof isn't quite so clear for the rows. Take row 1. Suppose j is 
> missing. Then every antidiagonal must contain a j (before it reaches 
> the first row). But the antidiagonals are getting longer and longer.
>
> What we have to is show (roughly) that if we take a triangle formed by 
> the first K antidiagonals, containing about K(K+1)/2 grid points, then 
> we cannot place K nonattacking queens on this board (thinking of the 
> positions of the j's as queens)
>
> Now we can place K nonattacking queens on a square k X K board (see 
> A000170). But we surely cannot do it on a triangular board.  Proof?
>
> Our problem is not exactly that, since we stop the antidiagonals just 
> before they reach the top row.
>
> But still, it is a nice question: Take a triangular chess board 
> containing
> K*(K+1)/2 cells.
> What is the max number of nonattacking queens? This must be a known 
> sequence?
> Maybe it begins 1,1,2,2,3?  Is there a proof that it is <= (K+1)/2 ?
>
> Best regards
> Neil
>
> Neil J. A. Sloane, President, OEIS Foundation.
> 11 South Adelaide Avenue, Highland Park, NJ 08904, USA.
> Also Visiting Scientist, Math. Dept., Rutgers University, Piscataway, NJ.
> Phone: 732 828 6098; home page: http://NeilSloane.com
> Email: njasloane at gmail.com
>
>
> On Fri, Jul 1, 2016 at 7:34 AM, Bob Selcoe <rselcoe at entouchonline.net>
> wrote:
>
> > Hi,
> >
> > Unless I'm missing something, I think there's a straightforward 
> > proof that the columns, rows and diagonals are permutations.
> >
> > Let the array T(n,k) in A269526 start T(0,0).
> >
> > Let j be the smallest number not yet appearing in Column K, and let 
> > F be the first cell in K where j may appear.  j only must avoid 
> > elements from prior (i.e, to the left of K) columns.  Since no 
> > element can repeat in any columns, the maximum number of elements 
> > that j must avoid is 3k (i.e, the elements in the row and two 
> > diagonals to the left of where j is being evaluated).  Therefore j 
> > must appear no later than 3k+1 places after F, and columns are permutations.
> >
> > Same logic applies to the rows and diagonals, though the maximum 
> > number of places after F is different: 2n+k+1 for rows and n+2k+1 
> > for diagonals.  The constraints probably can be tightened, but it's 
> > not
> necessary for a proof.
> >
> > If this proof is acceptable I would like to add it as a comment in
> A269526.
> >
> > Cheers,
> > Bob S.
> >
> > --------------------------------------------------
> > From: "Neil Sloane" <njasloane at gmail.com>
> > Sent: Wednesday, June 29, 2016 1:24 PM
> > To: "Sequence Fanatics Discussion list" <seqfan at list.seqfan.eu>
> > Subject: [seqfan] A269526, an infinite Sudoku-type array
> >
> > Dear Seq Fans,  The following is a pretty interesting recent sequence:
> >>
> >> Array read by anti-diagonals upwards in which each term is the 
> >> least positive value satisfying the condition that no row, column, 
> >> or diagonal contains a repeated term.
> >>
> >> The sequence is A269526.  I just added the first three rows and the 
> >> main diagonal as A274315 ff. (They all need b-files.)
> >>
> >> The array begins:
> >>
> >> 1, 3, 2, 6, 4, 5, 10, 11, 13, 8, 14, 18, 7, 20, 19, ...
> >> 2, 4, 5, 1, 8, 3, 6, 12, 14, 16, 7, 15, 17, 9, 22, ...
> >> 3, 1, 6, 2, 9, 7, 5, 4, 15, 17, 12, 19, 18, 21, 8, ...
> >> 4, 2, 3, 5, 1, 8, 9, 7, 16, 6, 18, 17, 11, 10, 23, ...
> >> 5, 7, 1, 4, 2, 6, 3, 15, 9, 10, 13, 8, 20, 14, 12, ...
> >> ...
> >>
> >> It seems very likely that every row, columns and diagonal (meaning 
> >> diagonals parallel to the main diagonal) is a perm of the natural 
> >> numbers, but I didn't try to find a proof.
> >>
> >> The first col is just 1,2,3,4,... but the next few columns could 
> >> also be added as new? entries.
> >>
> >> There are a lot of other related sequences, for example, in row n, 
> >> where does 1 appear?
> >>
> >> It is unusual to see such a nice array which is unrelated to any 
> >> other sequence in the OEIS!  (But I didn't try Superseeker).
> >>
> >> This looks like a lovely problem crying out to be analyzed.
> >>
> >> Best regards
> >> Neil
> >>
> >> Neil J. A. Sloane, President, OEIS Foundation.
> >> 11 South Adelaide Avenue, Highland Park, NJ 08904, USA.
> >> Also Visiting Scientist, Math. Dept., Rutgers University, 
> >> Piscataway,
> NJ.
> >> Phone: 732 828 6098; home page: http://NeilSloane.com
> >> Email: njasloane at gmail.com
> >>
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